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romney talks about. it was not just that small businesses were seeing costs skyrocket and they cannot get affordable coverage even if they wanted to provide it, it was not just that this was the biggest driver of the federal deficit, it was families who were more worried about going bankrupt if they got sick. millions of families across the country, if they had a pre- existing condition, they might not get coverage at all. if they did have coverage, insurance companies might iose an arbitrary limit. as a consequence, they are paying their premiums and if somebody gets really sick, lo and behold they do not have enough money to pay the bills because the insurance companies say they have hit the limit. we did work on this a long side working on jobs. this is part of making sure middle-class families are secure in this country. let me tell you exactly what obamacare did. if you have health insurance, it does not mean a government takeover. you keep your own insurance. it does say they cannot turkey around.
romney talks about. it was not just that small businesses were seeing costs skyrocket and they cannot get affordable coverage even if they wanted to provide it, it was not just that this was the biggest driver of the federal deficit, it was families who were more worried about going bankrupt if they got sick. millions of families across the country, if they had a pre- existing condition, they might not get coverage at all. if they did have coverage, insurance companies might iose an arbitrary...
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romney cares about education. when he tells a student that you should borrow money from your parents to go to college, that indicates the degree to which there may not be as much of a focus on the fact that folks like myself, folks like michele, kids who probably attended the university of denver did not have that option. for us to make sure they have the opportunity and can walk through the door, that is vitally important not just to the kids, it is how we will grow the economy over the long term. >> we are running out of time. response to that. >>-- respnd to that. >> i have no plan to cut education funding and grants for people going to college. i am not planning on making changes there. you make a good point. the place you put your money makes it a clear indication on where your heart is. you put $90 million into green jobs. i am all in favor of green energy. that would have hired 2 million teachers. $90 billion. these businesses may have gone out of business -- a number of them happen to be owned by people wh
romney cares about education. when he tells a student that you should borrow money from your parents to go to college, that indicates the degree to which there may not be as much of a focus on the fact that folks like myself, folks like michele, kids who probably attended the university of denver did not have that option. for us to make sure they have the opportunity and can walk through the door, that is vitally important not just to the kids, it is how we will grow the economy over the long...
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let's go back to what governor romney indicated.. under his plan, he would be able to cover people with pre-%+ existing conditions. actually, governor, that is not what your plan does. what it does is to duplicate what is already the law, which says, if you are out of health insurance for three months, you pan end up getting continuous coverage and an insurance company cannot deny you if it but that is already the law. that does not help the millions of people out there with pre- existing conditions. there is a reason why governor romney set up a plan he did in massachusetts. it was not a government takeover of health carr. it was the largest expansion of private insurance. what it does say is insurers, you havv to take everybody. that also means yyu have more customers. but when governor romney says he will replace it with some thing, but can not detail how it will be replaced, and the reason he said the system in massachusetts is because there is not a better way of dealing with the pre-existing conditions problem. he says he will
let's go back to what governor romney indicated.. under his plan, he would be able to cover people with pre-%+ existing conditions. actually, governor, that is not what your plan does. what it does is to duplicate what is already the law, which says, if you are out of health insurance for three months, you pan end up getting continuous coverage and an insurance company cannot deny you if it but that is already the law. that does not help the millions of people out there with pre- existing...
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no economist can say mitt romney's plan adds $5 trillion. if i say i had not add to the deficit with my tax plan. number two, i won't reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people, and it's not the case. look, i have five boys, i'm used to people saying something that isn't always true and keep on saying it hoping ultimately i will believe it. that is not the case. i had not reduce the taxes paid by high-income americans, and number three, i had not under any circumstances raise taxes on middle income families. i will lower taxes on middle income faemdmilies. you cite a study, there are six other studies that look at that study and say it's completely wrong. i saw a study that says you will raise taxes by $3 to $4 million on middle income families. all these studies down there i want to bring the rates down at the same time we lower deductions and exemptions and credits and so forth so keep getting the revenue we need. why lower the rates? the reason is, because small business pays
no economist can say mitt romney's plan adds $5 trillion. if i say i had not add to the deficit with my tax plan. number two, i won't reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people, and it's not the case. look, i have five boys, i'm used to people saying something that isn't always true and keep on saying it hoping ultimately i will believe it. that is not the case. i had not reduce the taxes paid by high-income americans, and number...
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so now we know for sure that wasn't the real mitt romney because the real mitt romney is doing just fine with the accountant that he already has. whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the last year. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in moving on from last night's debate tells you more about where the campaign is going from here than any dial test you saw during last night's debate. that's next with jonathan alter. [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with scottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> the pres
so now we know for sure that wasn't the real mitt romney because the real mitt romney is doing just fine with the accountant that he already has. whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the last year. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in moving on from last night's debate tells you more...
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governor romney you go first. and the question is this what are the differences between the two of you as to how you would go about tackling the deficit problem in this country? >> romney: i'm glad you raised that. and it's a critical issue. i think it's not just an economic issue, i think it is a moral issue. i think it's not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens will be passed on to the next generation, and the amount of debt we're adding a trillion a year is simply not moral. how do we deal with it? mathematically there are three ways. one of course is to raise taxes. number two is to cut spending and number 3 is to grow the economy, because if more people work in a growing economy, they are paying taxes and you can get the job done that way. the president would prefer raising taxes, i understand. the problem with raising taxes is it slows down the rate of growth. i want to lower spending and encourage economic growth at the same time. what would i cut? fi
governor romney you go first. and the question is this what are the differences between the two of you as to how you would go about tackling the deficit problem in this country? >> romney: i'm glad you raised that. and it's a critical issue. i think it's not just an economic issue, i think it is a moral issue. i think it's not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens will be passed on to the next generation, and the amount of debt we're...
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so now we know for sure that wasn't the real mitt romney because the real mitt romney is doing just fine with the accountant that he already has. whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the last year. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in moving on from last night's debate tells you more about where the campaign is going from here than any dial test you saw during last night's debate. that's next with jonathan alter. yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm not sure which policy is right for me. you should try our coverage checker. it helps you see if you have too much coverage or not enough, making it easier to get what you need. [ beeping ] these are great! [ beeping ] how are you, um, how are you doing? i'm going to keep looking over here. probably a good idea. ken: what's a good idea? nothing. with coverage checker, it's easy to find your perfect policy. visit progressive.com today. >>> the pr
so now we know for sure that wasn't the real mitt romney because the real mitt romney is doing just fine with the accountant that he already has. whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the last year. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in moving on from last night's debate tells you more...
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governor romney says we should replace it. i'm just going to repeal it but we could replace it with something. he hasn't described what we'll replace it with, other than saying we'll leave it to the states. but the fact of the matter is, some is of the prescriptions that he's offered like letting you buy insurance across state lines, there's no indication that that somehow will help somebody who has a pre-existing condition able to finally buy insurance. in fact, it's estimated by repealing obama care you're looking at 50 million people losing health insurance at a time when it's vitally important. get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from
governor romney says we should replace it. i'm just going to repeal it but we could replace it with something. he hasn't described what we'll replace it with, other than saying we'll leave it to the states. but the fact of the matter is, some is of the prescriptions that he's offered like letting you buy insurance across state lines, there's no indication that that somehow will help somebody who has a pre-existing condition able to finally buy insurance. in fact, it's estimated by repealing...
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because governor romney did a good thing. working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and as a consequence, people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs. and as a consequence, we now have a system in which we have the opportunity to start bringing down costs, as opposed to just leaving millions of people out in the cold. >> your five seconds went away a long time ago. governor tell the president directly why you think what he just said is wrong about obama care. >> well, i did with my first statement but i'll go on. >> you did. please elaborate. >> exactly. first of all, i like the way we did it in massachusetts. i liked the fact that in my state we had republicans and democrats come together and work together. what you did instead was to push through a plan without a single republican vote. as a matter of fact when massachusetts did something quite extraordinary, elected a republican senator to stop obama care, you pushed it through anyway. the so entirely on a partisan basis,
because governor romney did a good thing. working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and as a consequence, people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs. and as a consequence, we now have a system in which we have the opportunity to start bringing down costs, as opposed to just leaving millions of people out in the cold. >> your five seconds went away a long time ago. governor tell the president directly why you think what he just said is...
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now, governor romney said he wants to repeal dodd-frank. and i appreciate and it appears we have some agreement that a marketplace to work has to have some regulation. but in the past, governor romney says he wants to repeal dodd-frank, roll it back. so the question is, does anybody out there think that the big problem we had is that there was too much oversight and regulation of wall street? because if you do, then governor romney is your candidate. but that's not -- >> sorry, jim. >> -- what i believe. >> that's just not the facts. we have to have regulation on wall street. that's why i'd have regulation, but i wouldn't designate five banks too big and fail and give them a blank check. that's one of the inuntended consequences of dodd-frank, it wasn't thought through properly. we need to get rid of it, it's hurting regionally small banks, they're getting hurt. another regulation, we were giving mortgages to people who weren't qualified. exactly right. one of the reasons for the great financial calamity we had. and dodd-frank says we need
now, governor romney said he wants to repeal dodd-frank. and i appreciate and it appears we have some agreement that a marketplace to work has to have some regulation. but in the past, governor romney says he wants to repeal dodd-frank, roll it back. so the question is, does anybody out there think that the big problem we had is that there was too much oversight and regulation of wall street? because if you do, then governor romney is your candidate. but that's not -- >> sorry, jim....
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romney. and i think they did it very fine job at it. i think it's part what romney campaign is trying to reposition itself and trying to move forward on. >> the obama campaign did a masterful job too before we go there. >> a lot more money. >> i think -- [inaudible] what percentage do you think of the cross odes and gps ads the federal, the nonpresidential. you think will be comparative? have some element of positive to it? >> well, glsh did or do at a date. that's an excellent question. because we can't -- because outside groups can't coordinate. i think it's interest farring class like this. outside groups can't coordinate with candidates and party committee for television ads it means the candidate can't star in the ads. right. we could go mitt romney event and film romney footage. would we getting the same things the news crew get. we can't shoot an ad of romney talks to the call are a why he'll be the best president. what it does is the anticoordination laws they almost make all the outs
romney. and i think they did it very fine job at it. i think it's part what romney campaign is trying to reposition itself and trying to move forward on. >> the obama campaign did a masterful job too before we go there. >> a lot more money. >> i think -- [inaudible] what percentage do you think of the cross odes and gps ads the federal, the nonpresidential. you think will be comparative? have some element of positive to it? >> well, glsh did or do at a date. that's an...
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so now we know for sure that wasn't the real mitt romney because the real mitt romney is doing just fine with the accountant that he already has. whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the last year. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in moving on from last night's debate tells you more about where the campaign is going from here than any dial test you saw during last night's debate. that's next with jonathan alter. [ male announcer ] don't miss endless shrimp. try as much as you like, anyway you like. like new teriyaki grilled shrimp for just $14.99! my name is angela trapp, and i sea food differently. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and
so now we know for sure that wasn't the real mitt romney because the real mitt romney is doing just fine with the accountant that he already has. whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the last year. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in moving on from last night's debate tells you more...
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he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign. welcome to the throuee of you. five days is all mitt romney has before the debate. the politico article everybody is talking about today say this isn't the chair or ho hum convention or the leaked video or distorted polls or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. does he have enough time for a real game change? >> you know, five days before the first debate, 40 days before election day people go around the country already are starting to vote early voting in a bunch of states across the country. it's unclear whether there's enough tim
he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign....
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governor romney. romney came in and showed him what anyone who wishes to debate must possess, aggressiveness, clear, clear minded focus on the facts, command of them. excuse me. let me -- forgive me, but neither of you are really equipped to be an arbiter of truth here. okay. really. i'm being quite serious. i'm looking at you. said more than once that you are a political strategist when the truth is irrelevant. >> how i'm going to give my span. lou: actually, i would love -- i would love just once or twice that they coincide. which, which -- what lie did president obama other? >> is not what president obama uttered. it's what mitt romney uttered. lou: actually, it isn't. both of them. one was true that one wasn't. >> one was like out to lunch or dinner. the other was there, but what he was saying was not true. lou: which was not true? which? >> well, that's the truth. schools are not number one in the country. president obama -- lou: what are they? >> i think there below ten. lou: your telling us you
governor romney. romney came in and showed him what anyone who wishes to debate must possess, aggressiveness, clear, clear minded focus on the facts, command of them. excuse me. let me -- forgive me, but neither of you are really equipped to be an arbiter of truth here. okay. really. i'm being quite serious. i'm looking at you. said more than once that you are a political strategist when the truth is irrelevant. >> how i'm going to give my span. lou: actually, i would love -- i would love...
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romney. >> romney closes the gap but behind in state polls. >> romney ahead by one or two points. >> is romney leads. bye-bye!
romney. >> romney closes the gap but behind in state polls. >> romney ahead by one or two points. >> is romney leads. bye-bye!
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mitt romney needs it. it's a tight race, he's behind. >> and tonight, to cover it all, our team, inside the debate hall. and keeping watch in our fact check desk, and also, with us right here in the studio, the insiders from both parties, ready to weigh in on who woman and the big moments we'll remember tomorrow. >> the moderator tonight, jim lehrer from pbs. he's moderated 12 debates, more than anybody else. here he is right now. >> good evening, from the magnus arena at the university of denver in denver, colorado. i'm jim lehrer of the pbs news hour and i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates, between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate, and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues. and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minut
mitt romney needs it. it's a tight race, he's behind. >> and tonight, to cover it all, our team, inside the debate hall. and keeping watch in our fact check desk, and also, with us right here in the studio, the insiders from both parties, ready to weigh in on who woman and the big moments we'll remember tomorrow. >> the moderator tonight, jim lehrer from pbs. he's moderated 12 debates, more than anybody else. here he is right now. >> good evening, from the magnus arena at the...
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romney won the debate. when asked who was more likeable, debate watchers gave the two candidates essentially equal marks. that's one piece of spin that doesn't quite pass the sniff test. decide for yourself if this one does from the campaign's ben lebold who suggested mitt romney last night was acting. >> it was performance art. he locked himself into some bad positions that he took during the republican primary, tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, refusing to ask the wealthiest for a dime to reduce the deficit and those give us big openings to talk about on the campaign trail in key states in the weeks ahead. >> vice president biden, meantime, said his boss did a good job during a bright line between his policies and mitt romney's. >> i think the president did a wonderful job in making it clear just how stark that choice is. >> keeping them honest, that is precisely where the pundits, even those who support president obama, say he dropped the ball and when we asked our viewers whether mr. oba
romney won the debate. when asked who was more likeable, debate watchers gave the two candidates essentially equal marks. that's one piece of spin that doesn't quite pass the sniff test. decide for yourself if this one does from the campaign's ben lebold who suggested mitt romney last night was acting. >> it was performance art. he locked himself into some bad positions that he took during the republican primary, tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, refusing to ask the...
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here's how you get to the romney 270. he is going to win florida, and i know you follow the polls, some of you do. it says it neck-and-neck. the head back appoints. in fact of the sophisticated polling to run the is significantly ahead in florida, going to not have to put marco rubio on the ticket. it is a state that is fundamentally a republican state and growing more so as demographic changes continue to increase. the population from the northeast down and to florida. ohio, which is my home state, is pretty easy for me to predict. i go there a lot. going there on thursday for five days. at try and stay in touch, not with political elites in columbus, the the governor is a wonderful governor. i like to talk to, believe it or not, people in ohio, my hometown, uniontown, a democratic town, not an obama town. to they want the industry to continue unimpeded in its spread of wealth and jobs. the first to a new steel plants have opened in the last four years. they produce piping for the fracking industry which president obama
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will mitt romney play on that? because we've seen debates have momentary benefits in a race and then it disappears. >> pelley: two more presidential debates in october. what do the candidates need to do now that they've done this ground work? >> obama needs to press the case against mitt romney. he needs to stop the gains that mitt romney made tonight. >> pelley: thank you very much john. so the first presidential debate is history. here is what is coming up. next week the vice presidential candidates will debate. the following week obama romney round two. with a town hall meeting kind of format. and then the third and final debate focusing on foreign policy two weeks before election day. campaign 2012 coverage continues 24/7 at cbsnews.com. there will be more about tonight's debate first thing tomorrow on "this morning" with charlie rose, norah o'donnell and gayle king. as for who won the debate tonight, that's entirely up to you. i'm scott pelley in denver. good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by med
will mitt romney play on that? because we've seen debates have momentary benefits in a race and then it disappears. >> pelley: two more presidential debates in october. what do the candidates need to do now that they've done this ground work? >> obama needs to press the case against mitt romney. he needs to stop the gains that mitt romney made tonight. >> pelley: thank you very much john. so the first presidential debate is history. here is what is coming up. next week the...
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romney okay, good. i'm going to stop the subsidy to bpbs, and i love pbs, love big bird, love you too, but i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. that's number one. i'll take good programs that i think would be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number three, i'll make government more efficient, cut back the firm of employees, combine some agencies and the presidents. my cutbacks would be done through attrition, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. president said he'd cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled it. trillion dollar deficits for the last four years. the president's put it in place as much public debt, almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> moderator: mr. president, two minutes. obama: when i walked into to value office, i had more than a trillion dollar deficit greeting me, and we know where it came from. two wars that were pa
romney okay, good. i'm going to stop the subsidy to bpbs, and i love pbs, love big bird, love you too, but i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. that's number one. i'll take good programs that i think would be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number three, i'll make government more efficient, cut back the firm of employees, combine some agencies and the presidents. my cutbacks would be done through attrition, by the way....
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>> maybe. >> what was romney -- >> i think romney is -- i think he's a sharp, on-message attacker. >> lots of practice. >> he's had six years of practice. >> so after all that -- it was like a mensa meeting -- here's what we came up with. obama's strength is that he's the president. also, surprising. yes, he is the president. romney's -- you know, with the -- being an incumbent there's strengths along with that, and as toure says he knows everything. romney's strength is he's strong on message. when he's scripted and delivering a message, he does it well. romney's weakness on the contrary is when he has to ad-lib. he's bad at ad-libbing. he failing into making ill-fated bets, saying thing he shouldn't say. obama's weakness is that he hates romney. that's a weakness, because obama does have this tendency to come off as being a little arrogant, kond sending. that can be unlikeable. let me bring in our guest, jonathan allen, senior correspondent at politico. who do you think about the list? >> i think you guys hit for "the cycle" clearly. to mix the sports metaphors. >> i like that. >> i
>> maybe. >> what was romney -- >> i think romney is -- i think he's a sharp, on-message attacker. >> lots of practice. >> he's had six years of practice. >> so after all that -- it was like a mensa meeting -- here's what we came up with. obama's strength is that he's the president. also, surprising. yes, he is the president. romney's -- you know, with the -- being an incumbent there's strengths along with that, and as toure says he knows everything. romney's...
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mitt romney was talking about his five sons. he talked about ann romney being on the trail. there were a lot of little moments in the debate where he was clearly trying to bring out the more human side to appeal to voters, womens, independents, people who you say may have seen him as a little stiff. >> woodruff: is it too early to ask both of you how you think the campaigns sense this debate is going to change anything going forward in the days to come, ari? >> just hearing from the romney campaign it sound like they got what they wanted to out of tonight. they, obviously, have work to do. they're behind in the polls. they need to make up a lot of ground. but i don't think anybody scored a lethal blow tonight. i don't think anyone made a huge gaffe tonight. but from the perspective of the romney campaign they feel like they accomplished what they needed to do. >> ifill: scott, how many eggs did the obama campaign put in this basket? >> negotiate the obama campaign was really just trying not to make a major mistake here. they came in to tas ari said, a small advantage. they j
mitt romney was talking about his five sons. he talked about ann romney being on the trail. there were a lot of little moments in the debate where he was clearly trying to bring out the more human side to appeal to voters, womens, independents, people who you say may have seen him as a little stiff. >> woodruff: is it too early to ask both of you how you think the campaigns sense this debate is going to change anything going forward in the days to come, ari? >> just hearing from the...
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romney, mr. turzai, mr. metcalfe and their friends will attempt to create confusion and chaos now that we beat this thing back. so we're going to be just as vigorous now as we have been. your prior guest on the prior segment talked about anger. let me tell you something, chris, there's a lot of angry voters in pennsylvania. mitt romney and todd corbett for this chicanery. they're going to have a conversation with them at the polls on november the 6th. >> let me ask you, kathy, why did this creep up on so many people? i have been making some noise about it, but this is like a multistate thing, something like 20 or 30 states involved in this, all basically pushed by the republicans, all pushed to stamping down on the chance of minority people and older people to vote. clearly partisan and ethnic in nature. here we are, i may be the only one on national television yelling about this thing, but it just seems -- as bill clinton said beautifully, it's blatant and yet nobody's been raising hell about it. >> that's
romney, mr. turzai, mr. metcalfe and their friends will attempt to create confusion and chaos now that we beat this thing back. so we're going to be just as vigorous now as we have been. your prior guest on the prior segment talked about anger. let me tell you something, chris, there's a lot of angry voters in pennsylvania. mitt romney and todd corbett for this chicanery. they're going to have a conversation with them at the polls on november the 6th. >> let me ask you, kathy, why did...